Funny Because It's True

0 HyJax LTD · October 20, 2014
From Family Guy:

PETER: Can you name one successful company that isn't 'cookie' based?

LOAN OFFICER: Microsoft.

If you don't get why this is funny with truth  you need to go and read the TOS that Google has you involved with.

What type of security can a company who is designed as a marketing engine provide you without defeating their mission goal as a company?

Google = Marketing Firm from birth

Microsoft = Tech Firm from birth

You do know the NSA simply bought the meta data from Google for the Street Cam start up money Google wanted, right? That's when the TOS changed so they could sell EVERY PEICE you give them to ANYONE... not just the NSA. Why was it okay for them to turn and say the NSA just took it... no they sold it to the NSA.

Don't believe the hype... learn to read EVERYTHING YOU SIGN. I only posted this for the joke but wanted to clarify my position and why its so damn funny to those that know.

I love the chrome environment EXCEPT for the marketing holes left by design by the company.

Just read this... think about it. Its plain logic.

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+1 Source Slayer · October 20, 2014
Microsoft employee, I assume?

If not, you accept the terms you agree to, big deal, these companies take what you give them. If you truly believe that one company has better interest in your privacy based on its initial goal, you are mislead. If you wanted to make an actual, point, post the relevant portion of the topic next time. Though it doesn't really matter, you point is based on an invalid assumption.
0 HyJax LTD · October 20, 2014
Wrong.

Why is it that because someone has something negative to say about Google over privacy that we are all well aware Goggle screws us on they MUST work for Microsoft?

I use a company called XMission who in twenty plus years of operation as Utahs FIRST ISP has not lost ONE CUSTOMER to customer dissatisfaction and cancelation.  They have only lost customers in periods of the consumer not being able to pay their bill... but they always come back AS SOON AS THEY CAN.

Not everyone is just out to take what you got.  If you are convinced of this, please don't be my friend.  Some of us are here to deliver the NEXT GENERATION OF ENTREPRENUERSHIP.

A very educated person who knows what they read and sign. Being former military, this is a must for me.

I wrote actual policy for the US government. I actually understand and can reference ALL PARTS of a criedt card agreement.
I mentioned XMission.. their CEO is several places across the internet letting us know that the NSA didn't demand anything and he has told them NOT WITHOUT A WARRANT successfully every time.

He treats my data as though it was his.

Why is it that because someone has something negative to say about Google over privacy that we are all well aware Goggle screws us on they MUST work for Microsoft?

But that's fine... keeping supporting a company that you know sells your information to anyone and everyone.

I'm not here to make any one change their dedication.. only point out factors other haven't considered because of all the other noise.

I'm gonna stick to tech business with a tech firm. Ill use Google when I need some marketing done.

Some companies are beginning to care, but if we just keep handing money to the ones that don't its gonna take a bit longer.
0 HyJax LTD · October 20, 2014
And if Chrome didn't gather and sell EVERYPEICE OF DATA TO INTERFACE WITH IT...

Id use it 24/7.

But with the browser, that's like taking the TOS of GMail and applying it to EVERY ACTION you do on the browser.

I have nothing to hide but I do believe consumer protections should be first and foremost WITH ANY tech frim.

But again... Google is a marketing firm.
0 Alex Sweps · October 21, 2014
Man no matter how many people you tell to stop using google, they will never go down... I love google. They provide so many services for free and it costs nothing to make money using their services like apps and adsense etc... 

They provide a global market for you and all you need to do is write the app. Exchange rate, taxes, everything is all done by them... 

Then theres all the good things they are doing for world like cheap OSs and laptops for poor countries, self driving cars to save lives.... I dont understand why anyone would be shitty at them after everything they provide to us free of charge. 
0 HyJax LTD · October 21, 2014
Funny I post a joke, albeit it very true, and so many people get really offended.  Its like you know Google sells you out but you cant say anything cause they got you hooked on their gCrack... but just like crack its gonna take everything you own.

:D

Open source also means higher potential for unknown exploitation.
You can control pretty much anything you want in Windows, just like *nux, but you have to go strictly terminal... just like *nux.
I think the real issue is the ease windows has us used to annoys professionals that still have to terminalize real settings.
You dont pay attention to that on *nux because its still pretty much a terminal based OS, if you are looking to do anything really, real with it.
0 Alex Sweps · October 21, 2014
I think you need to educate yourself a bit.... You sound like you have no idea what you are talking about. Its also a good idea to drop the fanboy stuff as it will only limit your learning and understanding of technology.

Iv have found more and more that fanboys are simply that way because they only know how to use the brand they are boasting about and often because its the first one they where introduced too and simply refuse to even look at anything else. 
0 HyJax LTD · October 21, 2014
Dude... I was one of the original crackers for Windows 98.

Maybe you need to research a name before you judge... your gonna have to go way back to get everything.

But it don't matter.  This wasn't to make one better than the other.  Sorry so many G-Fans seem to not be able to take the heat.

Google sold you information for their street cam project to the NSA.  The NSA didn't demand a thing other than Google honor their contract Google wrote themselves.

Want to know how I know, go look up Pete Ashdown tells NSA not without a warrant.

That's my ISP (provider not owner)... the first in Utah. Mr. Ashdown spells it out clearly how the NSA and other agencies got your meta data.  They did NOT get ANY of XMisisons meta data.

Now, I suggest you go research it before commenting that I don't know what Im talking about.  I have EVERY VIDEO link on it since Im so proud of my ISP and his DEMAND my data is not for sale.

So, my challenge is find the videos of Mr. Ashdown, then post them and re-present your case of how I still don't know.

#IHuntTrolls
0 HyJax LTD · October 21, 2014
While your looking up the provider who was proud enough to stand up and clarify what is occurring, why don't you check out some data on Google:

http://www.zdnet.com/what-google-does-when-a-government-requests-your-data-7000010418/

http://www.pcmech.com/article/does-google-sell-your-personal-information/

that one tells you that they even use Chrome (its is a Google product) to collect and index your VERY personal meta data and more

http://whiskeysplace.wordpress.com/2010/08/10/google-will-sell-your-data-craigs-list-for-criminals-and-terrorists/

But at least your sure I don't know what Im talking about, right.
0 Source Slayer · October 22, 2014
Alright, I was going to post this, but it seemed a bit rude and this thread wasn't really worth the extra time, but might as well now.

Why is it that because someone has something negative to say about Google over privacy that we are all well aware Goggle screws us on they MUST work for Microsoft?



Or maybe the company you were directly comparing was microsoft? I said such as an exaggeration because there is an obvious bias there, upon looking at your profile, you do seem to have a bias, defending microsoft products and whatnot and making a random topic about a joke to open this thread.



I use a company called XMission who in twenty plus years of operation as Utahs FIRST ISP has not lost ONE CUSTOMER to customer dissatisfaction and cancelation. They have only lost customers in periods of the consumer not being able to pay their bill... but they always come back AS SOON AS THEY CAN.



Maybe they should wait til they're more financially stable?



Not everyone is just out to take what you got. If you are convinced of this, please don't be my friend. Some of us are here to deliver the NEXT GENERATION OF ENTREPRENUERSHIP.



I was not your friend and I was no concerned with who is and who isn't your friend. Obviously, not everyone is out to take your information, that doesn't mean that they aren't interested in taking your data, or that you should trust major corporations with your data.



A very educated person who knows what they read and sign. Being former military, this is a must for me.



What are you on about?



I wrote actual policy for theUS government. I actually understand and can reference ALL PARTS of a criedt card agreement.



Having wrote a policy doesn't have any relevance, nor does it demonstrate knowledge in a particular subject, neither something as broad as internet privacy
EDIT: policy, had you even wrote one that was accepted.



I mentioned XMission.. their CEO is several places across the internet letting us know that the NSA didn't demand anything and he has told them NOT WITHOUT A WARRANT successfully every time.



A business man saying that he isn't selling your data isn't any different from any other business you trust your data with, I'd still take my precautions.




Why is it that because someone has something negative to say about Google over privacy that we are all
well aware Goggle screws us on they MUST work for Microsoft?

But that's fine... keeping supporting a company that you know sells your information to anyone and everyone.

I'm not here to make any one change their dedication.. only point out factors other haven't considered because of all the other noise.





See above.



I'm gonna stick to tech business with a tech firm. Ill use Google when I need some marketing done.



It doesn't matter what you use, I really don't care though.



And if Chrome didn't gather and sell EVERYPEICE OF DATA TO INTERFACE WITH IT...



Throughout your post, you lack evidence.                            

Now to respond to your newer replies.

Open source also means higher potential for unknown exploitation.


That is one of the most clueless statements I've heard. Proprietary software is quite vulnerable, as with any software. A hacker doesn't typically use source code to find vulnerabilities in software, they use technical details. Technical vulnerabilities are prevented by good design. Common threats like cross site scripting and SQL injects are really simple to prevent with the correct method, and these concepts are general the smae. Not to mention, security through obscurity in this case makes no sense.

Google sold you information for their street cam project to the NSA. The NSA didn't demand a thing other than Google honor their contract Google wrote themselves.


They sold him information for their street cam project to the NSA? Do you mean they sold user information to the NSA which didn't demand it? I'd like to see that any other company wouldn't do the same and the proof that google did.

What the article you linked states (the first one anyway), is that google, like most other major corporations will in fact, be subject to the laws and demands of the government, unfortunately that simply means you have to be careful with any data you give, the same with any corporation really.

The second one doesn't really mention chrome at all. It just states that google uses keywords (that are seen by machines, not people), to get advertising data, you could also turn this feature off.

Anyway, I posted merely pointing out the flaws in your statements, or at least, what I perceived as flaws. 
0 HyJax LTD · October 22, 2014
I know you are all passionate and don't check links that get posted or data posted and research yourself.. as the Pete Ashdown interviews really tell the whole story.

While your looking up the provider who was proud enough to stand up and clarify what is occurring, why don't you check out some data on Google:

http://www.zdnet.com/what-google-does-when-a-government-requests-your-data-7000010418/

http://www.pcmech.com/article/does-google-sell-your-personal-information/




that onetells you that they even use Chrome (its is a Google product) to collect and index your VERY personal meta data and more

http://whiskeysplace.wordpress.com/2010/08/10/google-will-sell-your-data-craigs-list-for-criminals-and-terrorists/

But at least your sure I don't know what Im talking about, right.


Here's is where more than one criminal element had TOTAL CONTROL of the main Nux serves in 2011

Now go check out what's happening RIGHT NOW on your so secure Linux.

The reason open source are more likely to be under unknown exploit is this thought process they are somehow any more better than another and the fact that because today is rampant with electronic identity theft, closed proprietary leaves less areas for FULL exploitation of the kernel or mode. THATS JUST A LOGICAL FACT

Break each piece into its own area nas its own statement that's fine (Im guessing your republican from that habit)... but know that there is an entire context you browse over doing this that.  You probably think Jailbreaking is harmless, too.
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